I'd Never Vandalize Someone's Car, But...

"RPM esq." (rpm3) 06/21/2018 at 13:04 • Filed to: DUMB SMART, smart, bad ideas, assholes

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...I’ve also never been so sorely tempted. Seriously, WTF?

For Sweden > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:11

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Before everyone mentions that the Iron Cross isn’t explicitly Nazi iconography (it isn’t), the issue is the Reichsadler (eagle) . Only the Nazis used a Reichsadler with straight-out wings.

fintail > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:12

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Reminds me of this nonsense:

functionoverfashion > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:12

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Fighting words : As defined by the Supreme Court, fighting words are “those which by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace.”

Close........

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:13

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That is actively terrible. How have they survived any period of time in Seattle with this?

For Sweden > For Sweden 06/21/2018 at 13:14

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For reference, the Iron Cross used by modern Germany

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:15

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Shame you couldn't leave this handy instructional leaflet under a wiper arm.

Matt Nichelson > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:16

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I find it ironic that it's on a car that's called a Smart. 

Otto-the-Croatian-'Whoops my Volvo is a sedan' > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:17

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I think this is a very rare occasion where it’s ok to key it.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:18

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I only noticed the license plate, initially. Will you please brief me on the full context of why you took exception to the adornments on this car?

RPM esq. > For Sweden 06/21/2018 at 13:19

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Right . The war eagle and iron cross together is explicitly Nazi iconography, even if the iron cross by itself might not be .

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > For Sweden 06/21/2018 at 13:20

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Thank you for educating me on that. How does the license plate fit into the theme?

For Sweden > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:21

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might not be

If you want to tell Angela Merkel this is explicit Nazi iconography, go for it.

RPM esq. > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 06/21/2018 at 13:21

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Because people are too nice and just quietly seethe when they see it , I’m guessing.

Rico > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/21/2018 at 13:22

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It appears to be Nazi symbolism. I’m really hoping the person just didn’t know that and liked the sticker.

For Sweden > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/21/2018 at 13:23

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I don’t know about the license plate.  Maybe they are fans of Melodic Rock

RPM esq. > For Sweden 06/21/2018 at 13:23

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Didn’t I just agree with you that it isn’t? The only reason I left any room for doubt is that white supremacists do use it, just usually, as here, in conjunction with other symbols.

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > fintail 06/21/2018 at 13:24

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I saw this on a stanced GLI and had to restrain myself from throwing a brick at it.

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:25

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I usually always say, “It’s not the car’s fault,” but...man...Nazis may deserve it.

RPM esq. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/21/2018 at 13:26

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Because it’s an expressly Nazi symbol that leaves no room for other interpretation ?

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:27

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Remember, it’s okay to punch a Nazi .

ranwhenparked > For Sweden 06/21/2018 at 13:28

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One problem though, is that because Nazi iconography is banned in Germany, German neo-Nazi groups have started resorting to co-opting pre-Nazi symbols like the Iron Cross as substitutes. Even though such things are more representative of the ancient Prussian/German monarchy, and Hitler despised the idea of monarchy. But, logic doesn't really have any place in white supremacy. 

E92M3 > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:28

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Not exactly the car I  picture a white suprema cist driving.

Takuro Spirit > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 13:34

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Wow, the way it was cropped in the preview I did Nazi that coming.

DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever > functionoverfashion 06/21/2018 at 13:37

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Whoa, that’s an actual legal thing? So you can legally fight someone if they start talking shit? 

Mid Engine > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 06/21/2018 at 13:46

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I’m with you, it’s very odd and out of the norm given the general vibe in Seatt le

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever 06/21/2018 at 13:46

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I think in either Washington state or Oregon you can have a legal street fight as long as a cop is present.

V8soundRIOT- Now Has a V8 > DC3 LS, Fuck Hyundai, now and forever 06/21/2018 at 13:48

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I can’t tell if you’re being serious, but if you aren’t, they’re not . Fighting words are words that are not protected under the first amendment.

AuthiCooper1300 > For Sweden 06/21/2018 at 13:51

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What you see on Merkel’s Airbus is not q u i t e just an Iron Cross though. It is the Iron Cross amalgamated with the Balkenkreuz . I say “amalgamated” because the white bits come from the Balkenkreuz , the black cross with straight arms a n d w h i t e s u r r o u n d s used by WW2 German aircraft.

I am not sure t h e old, straight-arm Balkenkreuz is forbidden per se i n G e r m a n y a n d A u s t r i a , but I s h o u l d imagine its use is * v e r y * frowned upon.

AuthiCooper1300 > ranwhenparked 06/21/2018 at 13:58

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Exactly. More specifically , t h e s e a r e t h e s y m b o l s p r e s e n t l y i l l e g a l i n G e r m a n y ( i n c l u d i n g, but not limited to, Naz i - e r a s t u f f ) :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_section_86a

and 100 more > Mid Engine 06/21/2018 at 14:02

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Buuuuut go 15 minutes beyond the city limits of Seattle...

I lived in & around the very liberal city of Portland, which was very div erse and great, except for the expensive housing and the weather . But you go just a bit south of Tigard, or north and east into Camas, and it’s basically Alabama North.

I recall seeing a jacked- up K-10 pickup with a permanently-mounted flagpole in the middle of the bed, to which was affixed a rebel flag at all times. This was dude’s daily driver.

and 100 more > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 14:05

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I mean, vandalism is bad, and you shouldn’t do it.

But tires are easily replaced, though often expensive... especially if one were get four flat tires at once...

fintail > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 06/21/2018 at 14:11

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Passive- aggressiveness. You could probably display worse symbols and get nothing but a shrill voice aimed your way.

RPM esq. > Takuro Spirit 06/21/2018 at 14:14

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I would give this more stars if I could.

RPM esq. > E92M3 06/21/2018 at 14:21

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I’m not sure what I would picture, maybe a particularly tasteless bro truck for the neo-confederate redneck variety and a Tesla for the libertarian tech vampire type. But honestly a Smart isn’t the worst fit for the   urban Nazi fetishist. That or a really unfortunate stanced VW.

Now I’m depressed that such a taxonomy  is possible.

RPM esq. > Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever 06/21/2018 at 14:28

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This is a great idea but sadly I’m not sure I want to print that out at work.

RPM esq. > and 100 more 06/21/2018 at 14:32

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Oregon’s history makes it more or less inevitable that it would be like this as soon as you leave Portland. Washington isn’t quite as bad, but you’re right that it can get pretty ugly pretty fast outside urban/suburban Western Washington.

Mid Engine > and 100 more 06/21/2018 at 14:33

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I lived just west of Portland (tiny town of North Plains) for five years, there’s a ton of rednecks in that area. I’m half an hour north of Seattle (Bothell) and it’s completely normal here.

Mercedes Streeter > E92M3 06/21/2018 at 14:34

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The average smart owner in America is 55-60 years old. The cars are also loved by folks across all kinds of spectrums. Sadly, even Nazis like smarts.

someassemblyrequired > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 14:35

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How the hell do these kind of people hold down a job?   If I saw someone who worked for me show up with that on their car, they’d be done.

and 100 more > Mid Engine 06/21/2018 at 14:36

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I was under the impression that there’s a huge skinhead/neo-Nazi population up there, maybe it’s changed in the past 7 years or so...

Mercedes Streeter > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 14:37

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For anyone that cares, Nazi is driving a 2009 smart fortwo Brabus. The US spec Brabus cars weren’t true Brabus like they are in Europe , they were just a passion spec cars with an appearance package with Brabus branding on them.

This particular car has the Radio 10.

Fun fact: Because the US spec Brabus cars are not legit Brabus cars (where the VIN would reflect the Brabus package), anyone can turn any smart into a Brabus, sell it as a Brabus, and the buyer would have no easy way of proving you wrong.

and 100 more > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 14:38

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I was always told that Southern Oregon was the worst. Like, “tell your black friends to gas up in Shasta or Corvalis, but nowhere in between”. There may have been some exaggeration there, but I heard the same thing often enough to lend it some credence.

dsigned001 - O.R.C. hunter > fintail 06/21/2018 at 14:47

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I’m not sure how to feel about that one. As a critique of VWs (and Porsche’s) Nazi snugglebunny era, I love it. As a “VW is by Nazis for Nazis” I don’t love it, because I like Volkswagens and Porsches, but I do not like Nazism or its various new flavors.

dsigned001 - O.R.C. hunter > and 100 more 06/21/2018 at 14:49

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I’m really trying hard to stay strong on my “ don’t mess with another person’s vehicle” rule, but advertising yourself as a Nazi sympathizer may be an exception.

RPM esq. > someassemblyrequired 06/21/2018 at 14:53

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Public transit, maybe? I don’t know.

Spanfeller is a twat > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 14:54

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This is the stupid one:

This is a Prussian military decoration:

On a Eurofighter Typhoon’s insignia:

If I owned that car, would I have a symbol often confused with nazism and a license plate reading “prophet”?

No. Because I’m not the kind of person that wants to get upset at very upset people for all the wrong reasons.

This guy’s a douche

RPM esq. > Mercedes Streeter 06/21/2018 at 14:54

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I was curious about the Brabus badge. Thanks for educating me, resident Smart-knower!

Shamoononon drives like a farmer > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 14:54

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Could it be a military symbol?  

someassemblyrequired > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 14:56

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Makes more sense if that’s not a work parking lot, but honestly I wouldn’t be surprised given some of the tech folks in Seattle and proximity to Oregon/Idaho .

RPM esq. > Shamoononon drives like a farmer 06/21/2018 at 14:58

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It is the symbol of the Nazi party specifically, as it is looking to its left.

syaieya > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 14:58

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I almost bought a car with a nazi germany cross on the back end of it. The people that owned it were in the antique arms and war paraphernalia business.

That is the most uncomfortable i have ever been. The whole time I was there it got weirder and weirder.

RPM esq. > someassemblyrequired 06/21/2018 at 14:59

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It’s my work parking lot, but it was a in a visitor spot (the difference just being that it has a 2-hour time limit or some such).

Shamoononon drives like a farmer > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 15:00

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Ewwww

RPM esq. > Spanfeller is a twat 06/21/2018 at 15:02

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The war eagle looking to its left and holding a wreath is not a symbol “confused with nazism,” it was   the official symbol of the Nazi party from 1933-1945. Nobody has used that symbol after 1945 in reference to a much older Prussian military decoration, and if they say they are, they are lying to you.

Spanfeller is a twat > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 15:04

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Eagle’s head to the left is country, eagle’s head to the right is party.

You should see my updated comment.

RPM esq. > Spanfeller is a twat 06/21/2018 at 15:06

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I meant the eagle’s left, not the viewer’s left.

fintail > dsigned001 - O.R.C. hunter 06/21/2018 at 15:06

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I think it is just lame “edgy” design, rather than anything too intellectual. It can attract a bad element, I suspect. I have seen it for the other German brands, too.

The one with the gear design circle  is even more questionable, as it resembles the DAF logo.

Spanfeller is a twat > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 15:07

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Also.... Though Nazism disqualifies some symbols, the swastika is still widely used in Asia.

I still think the owner of that car did it almost on purpose to anger “liberal cucks” just to explain to them that he’s not a neo nazi or something. a douche

Spanfeller is a twat > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 15:08

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Lets just agree this guy’s a douche.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 15:14

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Does the plate tie in?

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 15:18

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Where was this picture taken ? Custom plates can be rescinded and DMV s usually have a reporting protocol.

RPM esq. > Spanfeller is a twat 06/21/2018 at 15:25

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I’m glad we can at least agree that this is a bad person, but come on... context matters, and a red armband with a swastika on it has a very specific meaning entirely different from what the swastika means when it’s engraved on a Buddhist temple. You don’t get the benefit of the doubt if you wear a swastika armband just because the symbol also has a different meaning when used in a different way, or had a different meaning at a different time . The same goes for this eagle and wreath and iron cross , which, as used here, in 2018, in the specific form modified and adopted by the Nazi party, clearly d oes not mean “19th century Prussian military decoration.” Nor does substituting the iron cross for the swastika—which is commonly done by neo-Nazis so their tattoos or flags aren’t quite as obviously illegal in Germany or Austria— remotely change that or excuse it.

RPM esq. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/21/2018 at 15:27

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In a downtown parking garage. I don’t know if or how the plate ties in.

and 100 more > dsigned001 - O.R.C. hunter 06/21/2018 at 15:28

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It’s a real temptation, and as the tension between people continues to ratchet up, someone like this is just as likely hoping to provoke a reaction from you, or someone else. And maybe they just deserve violence, for being such a hateful obtuse prick.

I don’t know what else to say. I can’t condone violating someone’s property, but I have a hard time wanting to sit back and hope this person will come around some day.

I saw in a comment section somewhere, someone lamenting “Is this what it feels like at the beginning of a civil war?” Most of the following comments were sympathetic, “I hope not” and “No, we’re not that far gone yet” , but the one that really stood out to me was a guy who said “The Left is gonna have a really hard time if so” . There are people among us who are openly ready for violence.

So which way do we go? I don’t know anymore.

RPM esq. > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/21/2018 at 15:28

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Good question. I don’t know. Hell of a plate, though.

Spanfeller is a twat > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 15:32

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Yeah, fuck Neo Nazis.

The city of Puebla has a genuine issue with Neo Nazis (or actually, VW owners in general here in Mexico)

It’d be so hard, yet so satisfying, to tell them who Hitler thought the master race was, and the fact that we were at war with Germany during WW2 because we didn’t comply with an extortion plead and they sunk two Mexican petroleum ships.

Like, worthy of a Youtube reaction video.

RPM esq. > Spanfeller is a twat 06/21/2018 at 15:33

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Wow...I’d love to plumb just what the hell is going on in their minds.

Spanfeller is a twat > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 15:41

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80% of Puebla’s economy is based on Industry, the second largest VW plant is in Puebla, and so are their suppliers. Is VW Nazi? no. But Mexico has a real problem with regionalism, so if you can be proud of your city, or state for anything, you’re going to exaggerate it.

Like, half of my family is from Monterrey and anytime I go they ask “Hey, so is pollution and traffic still fucking horrible in Mexico City?” Or they’d show off the 100 million dollar tower where the entire state government works.

Oh, Audi is also in Puebla! Little did anyone notice but the initial press photos for the Q5 had Mexican dealer plates:

F E D E R A L dealer plates I’d like to point out.. getting those is a pain in the ass.

RPM esq. > Spanfeller is a twat 06/21/2018 at 15:59

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In that context, it’s no less stupid but it’s almost sweet—these poor fools are just trying to show some appreciation for their employer’s history!

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! 06/21/2018 at 16:01

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Hell. If that's in town I'm bricking it  

Mid Engine > and 100 more 06/21/2018 at 16:02

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Around Seattle? Not that I know of , mostly Chinese and Indian coders

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 16:38

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Not-so-Smart

DaftRyosuke - So Long and Thanks for All the Fish! > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 06/21/2018 at 17:09

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Pretty certain it was at Cars and Coffee

E92M3 > RPM esq. 06/21/2018 at 19:15

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I imagine malaise era cars..

wafflesnfalafel > Spanfeller is a twat 06/21/2018 at 21:09

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really-not joking ? Nazi group in Mexico that drives VWs?  That is interesting.  Our Nazis up here pretty much are pickup truck folk and largely semi-rural.

Spanfeller is a twat > wafflesnfalafel 06/21/2018 at 21:12

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Yup, seen the bad eagle on several VWs. 

pip bip - choose Corrour > RPM esq. 06/22/2018 at 08:04

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make a sticker of the prophet mu hammed’ s face (taboo in Islam) and slap it on.